Shirley Maclaine - Love and Light
Three years ago, I had cause to take a look at Shirley Maclaine.
Since Shirley came out of the New Age closet with her book "Out on a Limb',
she's became an icon on New Age subjects. From my vantage point, it is noteworthy
that while building a successful and lifelong career in Hollywood, she's not
become the object of the scandals and excesses that are frequently common
to many in that profession. Her book also made her the object of numerous
Maclaine jokes and one can only assume she's a good egg taking these things
At the time I took my first look into Shirley, I discovered she had established
a web site at www.shirleymaclaine.com. I wasn't particularly impressed
with what I saw and, in fact, it seemed typical of many other New Age sites.
I contacted the powers that be on that site stating I wanted to speak with
Shirley. I was advised that she didn't indulge such requests. Unwilling to
beat my head against the layers of insulation celebrities build around themselves
- I dropped the matter.
Not long ago, Old One suggested that I take another look. This time I found
that Maclaine was an active participant on the web site so I posted a couple
of messages and waited for a reply. None ever came. Hmm.......
The web site has a feature that allows one to pull up all the posts made
by a particular individual. I did so for Maclaine.
The bulk of her posts tend to be one liners such as this
I think you are on the path to being part of the solution, not part of the
Love and Light,
It's rare to see her actually engage in a 'conversation'
This is a listing of all posts made going back to May of 2002 with the subject
header preceding the date and time.
Between November, 2003 and June, 2004 there is no posted activity at all.
Re: Chat room ideas ShirleyMac Thu Jan 20 23:39
Chat room ideas ShirleyMac Tue Jan 18 18:48
Re: Shirley and Bait ShirleyMac Sun Jan 9 18:23
Re: Shirley and Bait ShirleyMac Sun Jan 9 18:19
Re: Health Humor for the Holidays ShirleyMac Thu Dec 23 2004 00:46
Congratulations! ShirleyMac Thu Dec 23 2004 00:41
Re: Just wanted to say I love this. Thanks Shirley ShirleyMac Sun Dec 19
Re: Help A Child In Need ShirleyMac Sun Dec 19 2004 23:07
Bait for what? ShirleyMac Sun Dec 19 2004 23:07
Re: IE Chat ShirleyMac Wed Dec 8 2004 22:16
Re: IE Chat ShirleyMac Wed Dec 8 2004 21:57
PS ShirleyMac Wed Dec 8 2004 20:09
IE Chat ShirleyMac Wed Dec 8 2004 20:07
Re: Blue Otter--old IE show, new response! with Question ShirleyMac Wed
Dec 8 2004 19:40
Re: Holiday Cheers & Fears - Why fears? ShirleyMac Wed Dec 8 2004 19:16
Re: What can we do to contribute to change? ShirleyMac Tue Nov 9 2004 00:29
Re: Why I Haven't Posted That Much ShirleyMac Tue Nov 9 2004 00:27
Re: What can we do to make a difference? ShirleyMac Sat Nov 6 2004 00:03
What can we do to contribute to change? ShirleyMac Fri Nov 5 2004 23:58
Re: “In America there are no losers” G ShirleyMac Fri Nov 5 2004 22:39
Re: “In America there are no losers” G ShirleyMac Fri Nov 5 2004 22:31
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Fri Nov 5 2004 18:32
Re: “In America there are no losers” G ShirleyMac Fri Nov 5 2004 18:29
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Fri Nov 5 2004 18:28
Re: Election Reflections ShirleyMac Fri Nov 5 2004 11:11
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Fri Nov 5 2004 10:21
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Thu Nov 4 2004 12:14
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Wed Nov 3 2004 16:51
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Wed Nov 3 2004 16:41
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Wed Nov 3 2004 16:27
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Wed Nov 3 2004 16:25
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Wed Nov 3 2004 16:24
Re: “In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Wed Nov 3 2004 15:15
“In America there are no losers” ShirleyMac Wed Nov 3 2004 14:54
Re: Gathering 2005 ShirleyMac Wed Nov 3 2004 13:59
Re: My Spirituality ShirleyMac Sat Oct 30 2004 12:45
Re: Living it---every day. ShirleyMac Fri Oct 29 2004 22:04
Re: Living it---every day. ShirleyMac Fri Oct 29 2004 22:03
Re: Living it---every day. ShirleyMac Wed Oct 27 2004 13:36
Re: Question for ShirleyMac: Anyone authorised may answer ShirleyMac Thu
Oct 14 2004 23:10
Re: "Some people understand life better." ShirleyMac Thu Oct 14 2004 23:04
Re: Shirley? Is Ramtha coming through JZ Knight again? ShirleyMac Thu Oct
14 2004 23:02
My final, last, end, nothing else required response. ShirleyMac Mon Sep
27 2004 23:08
Re: Note to Pema Norpal, Jade, Anita, Deb, Inspire and a Dreamer ShirleyMac
Mon Sep 27 2004 22:44
Re: What has happened to Brit? ShirleyMac Sun Sep 26 2004 22:30
Re: What has happened to Brit? ShirleyMac Sun Sep 26 2004 22:28
Note to Pema Norpal, Jade, Anita, Deb, Inspire and a Dreamer ShirleyMac
Sun Sep 26 2004 22:26
Better defined rules for the EB ShirleyMac Sat Sep 25 2004 13:55
My thoughts on the EB this week ShirleyMac Sat Sep 25 2004 13:21
Did I say that? ShirleyMac Thu Sep 23 2004 17:29
Re: The way Of The World ShirleyMac Thu Sep 23 2004 17:18
Re: Do I change the rules? ShirleyMac Wed Sep 22 2004 21:20
Re: Do I change the rules. Please lend your voice? ShirleyMac Wed Sep 22
Do I change the rules? ShirleyMac Wed Sep 22 2004 20:20
Re: Epilogue ShirleyMac Tue Sep 21 2004 22:46
Re: Congratulations Rick Borutta! ShirleyMac Tue Sep 21 2004 12:47
Re: Thank You ShirleyMac Thu Sep 9 2004 19:58
Re: Dreamt of Shirley Last Night ShirleyMac Wed Sep 8 2004 22:15
Re: More food for thought ShirleyMac Wed Sep 8 2004 22:04
Re: More food for thought ShirleyMac Wed Sep 8 2004 21:53
Re: More food for thought ShirleyMac Wed Sep 8 2004 21:48
Re: Democrats are sexy. (Who ever heard of a great piece of elephant?) ShirleyMac
Wed Sep 8 2004 16:38
Re: Dreamt of Shirley Last Night ShirleyMac Wed Sep 8 2004 16:35
More food for thought ShirleyMac Wed Sep 8 2004 16:33
Re: The Cape May Gathering in October 2004 ShirleyMac Wed Sep 8 2004 16:30
For you ShirleyMac Tue Jun 8 2004 14:08
Re: Holding you all close ShirleyMac Tue Jun 8 2004 13:28
Wrong assumption ShirleyMac Mon Nov 17 2003 06:35
Re: Encounter Board Realities ShirleyMac Sat Aug 30 2003 14:39
Encounter Board Realities ShirleyMac Sat Aug 30 2003 14:24
Re: The Minority Report for you, Ms. Maclaine ShirleyMac Sat Jul 26 2003
So you know ShirleyMac Sat Jul 26 2003 20:36
Re: Our question to all of you ShirleyMac Sat Jul 26 2003 20:32
Thank you for your input ShirleyMac Sat Jul 26 2003 19:55
Thank you for your input ShirleyMac Sat Jul 26 2003 19:54
Re: "On a very serious note..." ShirleyMac Sat Jul 26 2003 19:54
Our question to all of you ShirleyMac Sat Jul 26 2003 19:39
Assumptions are the first step to rumors ShirleyMac Sat Jul 26 2003 19:11
Thank you ShirleyMac Fri May 2 2003 22:59
Re: A humble suggestion from a longtime member of this site ShirleyMac Mon
Apr 7 2003 15:44
Re: Weather for Gatherers! ShirleyMac Sat Aug 31 2002 11:57
Re: I'm Renewing my IE Membership because.... ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13 2002
Does this mean you are content? ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13 2002 19:36
Suggestion ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13 2002 18:27
Suggestion ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13 2002 18:27
Re: The Long Awaited Celebrity Report on Shirley. ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13
A different approach. ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13 2002 18:20
Re: I did it! I did it! ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13 2002 17:35
Thrilled. ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13 2002 17:33
Men too ShirleyMac Thu Jun 13 2002 17:32
Happy Birthdays... ShirleyMac Sat May 11 2002 19:35
I came in to play but... ShirleyMac Thu May 2 2002 15:58
I decided to use the donkey and the two by four approach. That is, one must
use the two by four to get the donkey's attention. To this end I posted a
subject heading of 'Shirley and Bait' implying that Maclaine's presence in
the forum was little more than bait to draw in users. Given the unremarkable
nature of the forum and its subject matter, the only thing they have there
that can't be found in many other places 'is' Shirley Maclaine. Shirley did
respond to this message as did a number of her users. I was informed that
the purpose of the forum was to establish a 'community'. I replied that while
this may be true - it did not remove the possibility (and, in fact, probability)
that there were ancillary intents as well.
Shirley advised that she felt insulted by my notations with regards to her
involvement's at the forum. I countered that were I intent on insulting there'd
be absolutely no doubt. I am not one who subscribes to the idea that stating
the truth is insulting. Rather, if there is an insult to be had at all,
it is by the one who is the author of the truth and not the one who reports
I then proceeded with my queries and received two one liners back with a
comment that Maclaine didn't want to be anyone's guru. I can appreciate this
idea but I wasn't aware I was asking for one. I then expanded on the query
in greater detail. This was ignored.
So, as it is clearly not Shirley's intent to indulge conversation to any
substantive degree, the next question is - 'if not then what?'
ShirleyMaclaine.com is a pay for use forum. The fee for posting privileges
is minimal and, in truth, inconsequential - only $3.00.
It has always been my position that those in Father's service - do so for
free and HQ is an example of that policy. However,
it is also noteworthy that the minimal fee deters miscreants and troublemakers
from being disruptive. A malady also common to the Internet.
There is a second level available for $10.00 that provides greater
access to a chat room and a few other features.
Given Maclaine's posting history in the $3.00 level - one would not be encouraged
to think they'd be buying access to her.
Point in fact, no disclosure is made one way or another with regards to
this issue and the users are left to assume as they will.
Another point of interest was the charge that came in on my credit card.
It was tagged to Maclaine Enterprises. This gives the appearance of a commercial
interest and might very well qualify as an 'ancillary intent'.
This idea is punctuated by the following:
"Please join the mailing list so that we can keep you up to date on appearances,
discussions, chats and other points of interest. "
It is hard not to see an effort to create an Internet Fan Club with a mailing
list that could be used as a source of sales leads for her next book offering.
If this is so, I see nothing wrong with it. Where I take exception is the
cloaking under 'Love and Light' to disguise the ancillary agenda. Is not a
Fan Club also a 'community'? The basic problem with most New Age topics is
that they begin nowhere and end nowhere and never have any hope of resolution.
Those wishing to exploit the circular and neverending nature of the
subject matter find a new generation coming to bear every year. Unfortunately,
those who indulge New Age subjects believe they are in a quest for truth
even though the paths they usually follow have no likelihood of success.
Spiritual awakenings are a good thing. The Biblical comment from Jesus 'knock
and it shall be opened' is a truism for all truth seekers whether that path
takes them down New Age or Religion or some other avenue. The basic problem
with New Age is that there are so many doors, no focus and no direction to
the journey. What many call New Age, we at HQ call dimensional.
Unlike New Age, Dimensional skills and abilities are very Old Age and can
be learned. There is a big difference between talking about things and then
doing them. New Age generally stops at the talking stage.
Oddly, those who are Love and Lighters rarely take note of the doomed nature
of their ideology. A woman once asked me if we took all of our 'light' and
each individual combined it - could we not make a better world? The
basic premise of her question was flawed and assumed that dimensional power
was cumulative - it isn't. Ten people with a power level of one have only
a maximum cumulative power factor of one. However, for the sake of arguement,
let us say this isn't true. History is filled with examples of people who
sought to impose their will upon others - sometimes under the guise of a
Love and Light Theology.
While such efforts usually start of well intended, they quickly become fascist
and totalitarian and serve only to elevate one aspect of the society while
It can't come as any surprise that much of current New Age Mumbo Jumbo has
very Old Age roots. What today might be called remote viewing was called
being 'in the spirit' by the Prophet Daniel and the Apostle John. It begs
the question from which end of the horse one wishes to get their data - from
the front end or the tail end?